Was Jesus God or a Separate Being From God?

[John Hunt]

Was Jesus a human being, the Son of God who was divinely inspired to be God’s messenger and lamb for the salvation of all of humanity? Or was Jesus part of God, much like a human manifestation or avatar of God? By the latter view, the humanity of Jesus was just a shell, a veneer for our benefit and ability to understand.

If Jesus is God, then it means that God sent himself down to earth to sacrifice himself to himself because it was the only way that he could convince himself to forgive all of us and change a rule that he made in the first place.

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And yes... That's a cut'n paste!

[Chris]

Was Jesus a human being, the Son of God who was divinely inspired to be God’s messenger and lamb for the salvation of all of humanity? Or was Jesus part of God, much like a human manifestation or avatar of God? By the latter view, the humanity of Jesus was just a shell, a veneer for our benefit and ability to understand.

If Jesus is God, then it means that God sent himself down to earth to sacrifice himself to himself because it was the only way that he could convince himself to forgive all of us and change a rule that he made in the first place.

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And yes... That's a cut'n paste!The unique and altogether singular event of the Incarnation of the Son of God does not mean that Jesus Christ is part God and part man, nor does it imply that he is the result of a cofused mixture of the devine and the human. He became truly man while remaining truly God. Jesus Christ is true God and true man. During the first centuries, the Catholic Church had to defend and clarify this truth of faith against the heresies that falsified it.

[John Hunt]

Donny, that was a whole bunch of bla...
Every time I ask you a question about the religious beliefs that you study, you tell me a story that, to me, appears to be irrelevant to my question.
You'll say something like "Well John, if you take a square and slice it in half, twice, you will end up with four pieces, yet all four pieces will still be square" Then I will respond with "Not nesessarely, it depends on how you cut it. You could end up with a square and some rectangles... What's your point?"

Please try to keep your answers short and to the point. It makes it easier for dummies like me to understand.

You could start like this...
God and Jesus are the same entity.
or this..
They are two separate entities.

Here's what I got out of it...
God sent himself down to earth to sacrifice himself to himself because it was the only way that he could convince himself to forgive all of us and change a rule that he made in the first place.

[John Hunt]

OK, so they are the same! One entity! Got it!

[John Hunt]

No, that part still seems illogical to me.

[Chris]

Was Jesus a human being, the Son of God who was divinely inspired to be God’s messenger and lamb for the salvation of all of humanity? Or was Jesus part of God, much like a human manifestation or avatar of God? By the latter view, the humanity of Jesus was just a shell, a veneer for our benefit and ability to understand.

If Jesus is God, then it means that God sent himself down to earth to sacrifice himself to himself because it was the only way that he could convince himself to forgive all of us and change a rule that he made in the first place.

:haha:


And yes... That's a cut'n paste!I thought my answer to the question was straight and to the point, but then, you didn't ask me. For a self professed agnostic your question had a tone of Deism to it. Interesting. Deism is generally traced to the English thinker Edward Herbert (1582-1648). The god of later deism was appealing to men steeped in the scientific meathod. God is the "devine scientist" who made this marvelous machine we call the universe and then moved on to another scientific project. Just as the ancient pagens projected their pagen mindset into their ideas of god, so too did many early modern thinkers project their scientific mindset into their concept of God. It's easy that way.

[John Hunt]

I also inject a little "sarcasm" in to my comments from time to time. I apologize for this, and I hope that nobody takes it personal. I just find nearly everything that I read or hear about religion so unlikely and illogical that it frustrates me to try and figure out why so many people believe in this stuff.

[Chris]

I also inject a little "sarcasm" in to my comments from time to time. I apologize for this, and I hope that nobody takes it personal. I just find nearly everything that I read or hear about religion so unlikely and illogical that it frustrates me to try and figure out why so many people believe in this stuff.
Sarcasm; My middle name. I love to try to answer questions regarding faith and morals. The Church that Jesus started is a teaching body. If you have a question regarding faith and morals, the Church has an answer that has been thought through to the end. Knock and the door will be opened. Ask, and you shall recieve.

[Dirtyshirt]

Good thing you said that was cut and paste, cause otherwise I might not be so open to saying how ridiculously ignorant the author must be. The person who wrote it THINKS he/she is intelligent, but it's kinda like a 5 year old that thinks he has one over on his parents, when in fact they're smiling and laughing because of how cute it is that he feels that way.


That Donny is a fast learner, thought for a moment I posted that. :haha: